Week One Recap

by Jarrett Felix

LXV+ Results Link: Week One

We are back at it now here in the PA Cross Country world, which means my weekends will now officially become a serious of events alternating between looking at results, emailing meet directors about results, contemplating the implications of the results, attempting to add them to our results site and, ultimately, being socially isolated and typing away at my computer to bring to you a recap of the events that I have been working on. Before reading up on the next week's events and starting over ...

Anyway, I'll probably either update this post as more results come in or I will make a new post to talk about whatever I miss this first time around. Either way, I encourage you to check back in throughout the weekend. And of course share your thoughts on what you think the updated Top 50 should look like later this week.

But for now let's begin ....

Oakbourne Relays
For those of you who have not been vigilantly keeping up with the comment section, here's the format of this race courtesy of one of our readers: "Format for Varsity Race-You will have 4 two member teams. The 1st person will run a mile and then tag off to the 2nd person. That person will run a mile and then tag the 1st person who will run a mile then tag the 2nd person. The 2nd person runs a mile back to the finish. The times of all four teams will be added together."
So when reading the results, for example: the first of GFS's 4 member teams had Plass do his first mile in 5:20, handed off to Dahl who went 4:50 and handed back to Plass who went 5:38 who gave it back to Dahl for a 4:51.

Hopefully this helps when you are taking a look at the results. I also decided to add up the two mile splits for each runner and create a list of fastest total times for reference. That's available on our results page as well. However, keep in mind that's unofficial as sometimes the order listed was different than the order actually used in the race (so the splits would be reversed). 

Taking a look at that list may tell a better story. For example, Nick Dahl's times are really impressive. He ran a blazing 9:41 total time (over 10 seconds faster than the next best time) and did it incredibly even with regards to his splits which is also encouraging as many guys had a solid positive split. We suspected Dahl would be strong this year after his spring season, but it's always encouraging to see him produce on the trails where he has had a bit more of a struggle overall. He's one of the top names in the state right now in terms of national qualifying potential, that much is certain,

Assuming my calculations were correct, I had the second fastest time coming from Unionville's Nick Lopapa with teammate Mike DelVecchio also in the top five. That's huge considering this field had three of the best teams in the state in attendance. Lopapa could potentially be a breakout star in waiting for a team that had two sub 4:27/9:45 guys last year who are both back (DelVecchio and Kent Hall). They didn't showcase killer depth in week one, but they have some intriguing pieces. 

I also really like what I saw from Del Vierling of Emmaus. He clocked a total time of 10:12, just ahead of guys like Jack Carmody and Grayson Hepp who both are excellent runners (each made the Pre Season Top 50). If they could get Ryan Paradise out for XC (great track runner sub 2 and sub 4:30) they could have a nice little squad of their own. 

But the real story of this meet is naturally the compelling match up between West Chester Henderson and Downingtown West. Henderson won the meet based on their top 4 relay squads (8 total runners) which I was definitely surprised to see, considering DTW's well known depth. That being said, neither of the High School Hoey's ran (Jonah did) after some very long track seasons so if you swap out the 7-8 for West in exchange for the Hoey's that swings the meet big time. 

Sappey looked really strong, throwing down an impressive negative split as part of a relay team that dominated (he was joined by Ryherd) and West put their top 3 teams (i.e. top 6 runners) in the top 6 overall. They only score 5 in XC so this is quite the nice start for one of the state title favorites any way you slice it.

Despite this fact, you still have to be really impressed with Henderson. Smucker is obviously off to a great start with one of the few sub 10 marks of the group. You also have to appreciate the development of some of last year's varsity guys. They returned a decent chunk of runners from their district runner-up squad, but those guys were back a bit in the pack, especially compared to West (both CB And DT) and Conestoga's deep 7. But Ben Berkman started out the year fantastically with a top 7 time at the meet overall. Then the rest of their pack helped load up 4 teams in the top 9. I still think they have some work to do to catch up to both West teams this year (have to prove they have the front running), but Henderson is already looking very deep. Hard to think they aren't prepared to take another crack at qualifying for states.

Viking Invitational
In their first run of the season, the CB West boys made their case for being the top team in the state, while CB East's Jake Brophy did the same individually. Both were ranked #2 in my preseason rankings, but both looked excellent in their debuts.

West boasted a pack of 5 in the top 13, with their six and seven also joining the top 25. Add in a dominant showing in the JV race, led by Teagan Fortna and it's clear the depth is there.

The 1-5 spread was about 55 seconds, which is pretty solid, but can probably get a bit stronger. Fortna finished a strong 3rd overall, and his consistently makes him a Rock solid front man. Sorry, couldn't resist. The real wildcard is Brian Mass who finished 5th overall and shined in his debut this season. He's a great talent and, if he can hold this form until season's end that will be a clutch X factor. Smullen jumping up to join McDonald and Iatarola is also big. This whole top 5 has top 50 potential at states. That's usually silver at a minimum. 

As for Brophy, he handled this field and crushed his time from last year (15:48-16:05) but it was clearly better conditions as the whole field was faster than a year ago. Brophy looks good, but he's the defending state champion and course record holder. That makes it hard for him to really surprise us on this sort of small stage. However, it's always a good sign to be healthy, running strong and running faster than last year.

Jeff Kirshenbaum is probably thinking along the same lines. After a strong early season showing here last year, the Methacton standout dropped roughly 50 seconds down to 16:02 for second overall. Kirshenbaum has shown signs of greatness in the past during these early season meets. If he holds it until season's end he will be a top 20 guy at districts at a minimum. Lukas Marcelis of Wissahickon also had a great run, finishing 4th among a group that included Joe Maguire and Tucker Desko who were top 50 guys in the preseason rankings. Marcelis gets off too a similar start as Dillon Farrell did when he went on to finish in the medals at states as a senior.

Sophomore Rusty Kudjych debuted nicely in 9th and Sean Rahill from Tennent (also listed as a sophomore) finished in the top 15. Keep an eye on both of those names looking ahead. Tennents top 3 overall ran really well, if their 4-5 come on late they could make a nice run in D1. 

CB East and CR North could both technically end up in a battle for a state spot this fall (right now they are my 4-5 in D1) and the two dualed to a tie in week one. This was a great start for North who historically comes on best late in the season in time to make a big push for states. Looks like Haas and Heintz will be the team leaders but they also boasted a noteworthy 41 second spread. 

CB East looked pretty solid (Goetz was big with a top 10 finish) but their real potential may lay with their freshman. Check out those freshman results: top 4 spots in the novice meet. That's really interesting looking ahead to year's end.

Big Valley Invitational
 It looks like the Big Valley Invitational (which in the past has at least had results split by division if not races) was run as one big race this year and, ultimately AA stud Will Kachman beat out the State College 1-2 punch of Alex Milligan and Nick Feffer. Kachman edged Milligan by 8 seconds and another 13 separated Feffer from his teammate.

I thought this was an encouraging run for Feffer who beat out a proven XC vet in Sam Signor who earned 4th place honors. I also liked the run by Anthony Degleris who is off to a nice start on the grass after an excellent track season. Perhaps I was bit too harsh in my preseason rankings on SC (the coaching community put them in the top 10 easily in the first poll), and they showed a nice top 5 this weekend. Also glad to see Joey Feffer mixing it up in the top 5 of this squad. I think he has potential to be an X factor.

Keep an eye on Camp Hill in the small schools. The team had a decent showing, but if you add in Cooper Leslie (who I believe splits time with soccer) then their score could potentially be in the neighborhood of 70 points higher. That puts them right with Lewisburg, a very good AA squad who had a solid day.

Awesome run by Isaac Davis from Jersey Shore and sneaky good run from Zane Baker of Bedford who has great raw speed and looks like he will be a key addition for Bedford. Just need to add Harry Bailey to the squad next. But seriously, has no one seen this movie?

Cliff Robbins Invitational
Dominic Hockenbury took care of business at the Cliff Robbins Invitational this weekend, winning with a fantastic 16:11 to take gold by 35 seconds to take gold over Matt Murray , an excellent runner in A who placed top 10 at states last year. Although Dom didn't open the season with the scorcher he did last year (15:51), he still dominated and, most importantly, picked up the win. I'd imagine this year more so than ever he his focused on long term goals.

This is a really nice start for Murray as well. His track season was solid, but not quite as good as his previous XC year so this momentum builder was exciting to me. I feel like he is also a guy who comes on really well late in the season.

My biggest takeaway from this meet, however, was the squad from Dallas. They took the team title comfortably with their army of young guns including the consistently improving Jack Zardecki who finished 3rd. They had a solid pack, especially that top 4, and as I've said many times, the AA competition is pretty wide open at this point. Beware of Dallas.

In an early season match up of A contenders, Elk Lake took care of business against Northeast Bradford, helped by a clutch 9th place finish from Hunter Bedell. That's a tremendous breakthrough for him and big for a team that needs a front runner to make them state title contenders.

Great run by the squad from Montrose as well. Also really respected the race from sophomore Frank Cunningham of Hazleton. He's an early favorite for AAA district champ in D2 with his team hoping to defend their title.

30 comments:

  1. Dwest vs Henderson would be a great rivalry this year if it weren't for the Hoeys

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    1. Maybe they transferred again.

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    2. Does anyone know why the Hoey's didn't run at Oakbourne?

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    3. I admit it- I don't have a clue why the Hoeys didn't race last weekend. I do ask this, unless a coach is using early season racing to race an elite athlete into shape as a part of the training plan, why would you race them this early in the season? The elite athletes season doesn't even begin for another 6 weeks and you can hold a peak for only so long. Going hard now might not make much sense when taking a season long plan into consideration. There are lots of controlled ways to build speed training into an overall plan. My question is why did DTW even race any of their varsity? Perhaps more individualized training regimens for each of their runners, but that is only speculation. We can look to history as a guide- a heavy early season race schedule took a lot out of the Hoeys last fall. Maybe history won't repeat itself in 2015.

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    4. Rivalries might be cast aside tomorrow. Henderson, DTW and WCE face off in a Chesmont regular season tri meet. The course will be shortened because of the expectation for temperatures above 90 degrees. It's likely to be a suffer fest. In spite of this it might be fun to watch. Last year at this meet, DTW ended Henderson's run of undefeated Chesmont regular season meets. They did it without the Hoeys.

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    5. Are they able to run this tri meet or will they rely on their depth.

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    6. ^^^ Teams have to run meets to get into top racing shape. Early meets are great for tracking progress, exposing weakness that might indicate training adjustment and for building towards a peak. Why would you wait 6 weeks to start racing? If that were the case there there would only be one meet per year: States. Some teams last year had individuals with their own agenda and race schedule. That Matthew Maton sub 4:00 guy did it last year and got kicked off his team. Team chemistry is critical and on good teams everyone buys into the coaches program and supports each other.

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    7. I agree that meets get you into top racing shape, but you have to look at the expected length of the season before starting the tuning process of racing your way into shape. A League Championship, Districts, States, Regionals, Nationals- and you're season has stretched into December, a full 6 weeks after those who are racing full out right now have ended their seasons. Throw in some hard tuneup races on challenging courses against the right competition heading into the League Championships and you have a good season without the stresses that lead to injury (stress fractures and illness- mono; all of which runners prominently featured in this blog have encountered.) Its a simple observation that the Hoey boys are being managed carefully in a controlled fashion.

      Lots can be done in training which is under controlled conditions that are hard to simulate in a race. Have you ever seen runners take it out hard and then shut down mid-race? That's hard for a coach to get a testosterone laden teenager to do, but I saw Conestoga runners do it last year. I think that it's just easier to manage the early season intensity of effort in a non-race setting.

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    8. ^^^^ Actually DWEST lost to Henderson last year in their duel meet perpetuating Henderson's undefeated streak to 8 years.

      Henderson lost today however bring their streak to an end at an incredible 8 years.

      So whoever is deciding what events are worthy of the Hoey's performing in must have decided it was worth running them today on a truncated 1.5 mile course in 90 degree weather. Without them Henderson wins by 1 point.

      I wonder why Dwest's coach Burns would force Sappy to run at Oakbourne and not the Hoey's?

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    9. I heard the top 4 today went: big Hoey, little Hoey, Sappy, Smucker; with only a 2 second spread between big Hoey and Smucker.

      Dwest looks invincible.

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    10. ^^^^^ Actually DWEST lost to Henderson last year in their duel meet perpetuating Henderson's undefeated streak to 8 years.

      Henderson lost today however bring their streak to an end at an incredible 8 years.

      So whoever is deciding what events are worthy of the Hoey's performing in must have decided it was worth running them today on a truncated 1.5 mile course in 90 degree weather. Without them Henderson wins .

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    11. Chemistry counts and it's a long season.

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    12. All 4 of those guys were flying in the last 150. It was only 1.55 miles but they were out in 4:58. It's not like they jogged and just kicked. The course is hilly and had about 12 feet of shade. WCE was in charge of the timing, but it didn't look like their was a 2 second spread. It was about 5 meters from 1-4. Rhyerd came up big for DWest. He's going to be a key for them going forward. Seems like a real leader. That may be the best dual meet in the State. Their is a pretty good chance that you saw 4 of the top ten guys in the AAA State meet. Maybe, 2 others from that meet will medal.

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    13. 4 in the top 10 assumes they all run at States but we don't know their schedule, the may opt out to save it for nationals.

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  2. That was Hall, not Lopapa for Unionville.

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  3. If you are going to keep a top 50 runners in the state throughout the season it might be interesting to keep a flowing top 10 teams in the state also. Just an idea.

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    1. The Top 10 Teams will be updated throughout the year, but the Top 50 will be weekly and the Top 10 Teams will not be

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  4. Hey moderator, if you are going to keep deleting benign comments, just shut down the whole blog. Much of the value of this blog comes from the comments. I can understand if you delete inappropriate comments but there is nothing inappropriate about the posts you have purged.

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    1. Most teams have to deal with overly involved parents in one form of another. But to say a meet wasn't 'sanctioned' by a particular parent is speculation and therefore possibly an insult.

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    2. It is also pure speculation on Jarrett ' part to posit that the Hoey's did not run at Oakbourne due to a long track season. Please supply your source for this information or amend your post.

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    3. The bottom line is the state champion favorite ran a team race without their top two runners. That will cause speculation.

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    4. Jarrett, I submit that it was pure fabrication on your part to posit that the reason 2 of the top 10 runners in the state (based on your websites rankings) did not run a g Oakbourne was due to a long track season.

      Either confirm this fabrication on your part or supply your source. Failure to do so will leave your actions open to potential nepharious interpretation. Website ratings, or financial gain could be construed on your pa rt otherwise.

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    5. Actually the bottom line is you don't know why the Hoey's didn't run.

      Let's do this. The next time the Hoey's don't run with the rest of the Dwest team this year, let's see what excuse you fabricate then. And you know it's coming.

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  5. I appreciate that everyone wants to comment and contribute but as a reminder, if you are taking advantage of the anonymity in your posts, then they are more likely to be deleted if the cotent is questionable or can be seen as spreading rumors. If you tack a name on it, I'll leave it up because then we have accountability. If you want to speak with me off the record about something, I'm always happy to discuss. And we have the playground section of the blog available as well where comments are much less likely to be deleted. I know not everyone will agree with my philosophy or the rules, but please understand that these guidelines will be my standard for monitoring the site.

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  6. There is a reason that much of the real presses sources are confidential. Not everyone is in a position to post their names. It doesn't make the content false. By allowing it to be in the public domain allows it to be confirmed or denied. Plus not every name is subject to confirmation.

    Sicerely
    Jarrett Felix

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    1. You are correct. There are a lot of reasons why press sources are confidential. But journalists know who the source is and the reliability of the source. I have no idea who is posting what and how reliable they are. If you want to talk to me off the record, I'd be happy to post that information confidentially. Otherwise I have to do my best to pursue responsible journalism.

      If that bothers you, I understand, but it's the way I choose to operate. Feel free to go to another site if you are unhappy with my practices. I won't be offended.

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  7. Jarrett, I have to agree with the post above. Either site your source for knowing why the Hoey's did not compete at the Oakbourne Relays, or retract your statement.

    You need to hold yourself to the same standards you hold us to.

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    1. First off, everyone knows this is the same guy who posted the "I submit" comment above. Second, Etrain made it clear the difference for speculation comments is animosity. If you want to speculate in a post, put out your real name and be held accountable.

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    2. Actually Jarrett didn't say the reason they didn't run was due to a long track season, as if he had a source. He just said they didn't run after a long track season.

      "That being said, neither of the High School Hoey's ran (Jonah did) after some very long track seasons so if you swap out the 7-8 for West in exchange for the Hoey's that swings the meet big time. "

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    3. Actually it wasnt the same person posting as above, so it looks like you are fabricating posts once again.

      Just acknowledge you made an error in judgement Jarrett and move on.

      Jarrett, I think thou doth protest too much!

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