The range of difficulty in courses and variables like course length have held me back from putting together one for cross ... Do u mean fastest 5k times in general or for a specific course?
I can see your point with times, as courses can vary the times substantially. (However, this might still be interesting to see.) It might be interesting just to see States, except that the Hershey times would be incredibly slower. I guess I can see why this would be hard to come up with an appropriate method. Really interesting data to look at! What is your method of checking times of the races from a long time ago, say, the 60s?
I originally designed this list to keep track of the runners who broke 9:20.0, 4:17.0 and 1:55.0 (the milesplit 1st team elite standards) for runners during my 4 years in HS (marked in bold) for my own personal reference. That was easy to find on penntrack, etc. (especially becaus back then there were no pay to see accounts). Then I decided to make it include all the times I could find. To do that was tricky (the full file on my CPU has some 600 entries).
Basically anything I could find online on school websites or old meet results or something I added. I found a PDF somewhere out there hay listed every state champion since 19:12 or so which helped a lot. That's where a lot of the old times are from. There and school records listed on school websites.
This blog is amazing! I wish there were resources like this back in my high school running days...it would be very cool to see 4x8 and DMR all time lists as well.
Thank you! I'm in the middle of working on the 4x8 info (just started) so hopefully i get something up eventually but (as you probably guessed) this took a bit of time to put together so i won't be confident i have close to an all-encompassing list any time soon haha
Just noticed Carlos Gibbs (125) time of 9:15.5 at the 1990 State Track meet is incorrect. His time, which is on the PIAA site, was 9:17.45. That is also the time he has on the school record board at Waynesburg Central H.S. (Which Ben Bumgarner broke this year.)
Will XC be added to this list?
ReplyDeleteThe range of difficulty in courses and variables like course length have held me back from putting together one for cross ... Do u mean fastest 5k times in general or for a specific course?
DeleteI can see your point with times, as courses can vary the times substantially. (However, this might still be interesting to see.) It might be interesting just to see States, except that the Hershey times would be incredibly slower. I guess I can see why this would be hard to come up with an appropriate method. Really interesting data to look at! What is your method of checking times of the races from a long time ago, say, the 60s?
DeleteI originally designed this list to keep track of the runners who broke 9:20.0, 4:17.0 and 1:55.0 (the milesplit 1st team elite standards) for runners during my 4 years in HS (marked in bold) for my own personal reference. That was easy to find on penntrack, etc. (especially becaus back then there were no pay to see accounts). Then I decided to make it include all the times I could find. To do that was tricky (the full file on my CPU has some 600 entries).
DeleteBasically anything I could find online on school websites or old meet results or something I added. I found a PDF somewhere out there hay listed every state champion since 19:12 or so which helped a lot. That's where a lot of the old times are from. There and school records listed on school websites.
This blog is amazing! I wish there were resources like this back in my high school running days...it would be very cool to see 4x8 and DMR all time lists as well.
ReplyDeleteThank you! I'm in the middle of working on the 4x8 info (just started) so hopefully i get something up eventually but (as you probably guessed) this took a bit of time to put together so i won't be confident i have close to an all-encompassing list any time soon haha
Deletesteeplechase??
ReplyDeleteWouldn't even know where to begin with that one ...
DeleteJohn Baker of Penncrest ran 4:09.8h in 1967. I believe it was at Penn Relays, and he may have been 2nd or 3rd in the race.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the update! I'm assuming that's a full mile?
DeleteI think someone from Pine Richland ran a 4:10 in the 80s... its on their record board (which can be found online)
ReplyDeleteI think separating indoor and outdoor marks would make this list easier to understand...just my opinion.
ReplyDeleteJust noticed Carlos Gibbs (125) time of 9:15.5 at the 1990 State Track meet is incorrect. His time, which is on the PIAA site, was 9:17.45. That is also the time he has on the school record board at Waynesburg Central H.S. (Which Ben Bumgarner broke this year.)
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