By Jarrett
Felix
Since I’ve
got to make a post a day to keep this post streak going, I figured it might be
a good idea to do some event by event breakdowns for this point in the indoor
season. And I’ve decided to start with the mile. Now, if you remember, you can
keep an eye on how everyone’s times currently stack up in the state by going to
lxvplus.blogspot.com and clicking around the rankings. That is a concrete representation
of the numbers. This post, however, will be very speculative, opinionated and
subjective. That’s kinda my thing. So let’s roll.
The Event
Let’s
get some details out of the way before we get started. The “SQG” for this event
is 4:32.43 for a flat track. What that means is that if you run 4:32.43 than it
doesn’t matter because the SQG’s don’t mean anything anymore. I suppose the
time is technically there to give you a feel for what time might be the state cut off, but the PTFCA doesn’t care if the
actual cut off is nowhere near it. For example, last year the state cut off
ended up being 4:29.78 for a flat track. That’s over 2 and half seconds faster
than the SQG. Now 2.5 seconds may not sound like a lot, but there were actually
12 athletes between 4:29.78 and 4:32.28 last year.
The
good news for mile hopefuls is, I would think we would see significant
scratches from this event. With the new “4x8 first” schedule, if you are an
athlete running on the 4x8, the mile is a really hard double. If you are an
athlete running on both the 4x8 and the DMR, then it’s unlikely you will run
any individual event (although there may be an exception). And if you want to
focus on either the 3k or the 800 exclusively, then you will scratch from the
mile (Unless you are going to steal a spot from someone and purposely false
start. C’mon coaches). Last year, out of the top 10 individuals, 3 ended up as
scratches. Out of the top 20, 9 ended up as scratches.
But
remember, even with all those scratches, the cut off still ended up being very quick
relative to the SQG. This year, we already have 22 people at or under the SQG
and a few more knocking on the door. I see a decent amount of potential
scratches from this group, but there are guys who will continue to improve or
guys you have not raced the event yet who will probably make a dent in the
rankings sooner rather than later.
What Has Actually Happened So Far
PA has
already had two runners qualify for Millrose which is pretty fantastic. Josh
Hoey of Bishop Shanahan did it first, running 4:17 for a victory back in 2016.
Almost a month later, Sam Affolder joined him with a 4:19 run. Both marks were
posted in winning efforts on the Armory’s banked track. Josh is last year’s
state runner up and also the Penn Relays mile champion. This year, he’s running
better than he did a year ago. Much better honestly. He has to be the favorite
right now. That said, Sam wasn’t even in this state last year. Plus, he was
just a freshman. We’ve seen that sophomores can make big jumps, even from their
successful 9th grade years. Ironically, you just need to look at
Josh Hoey’s 2016 to see proof.
Tristan
Forsythe, Liam Conway and Brandon Hontz are the next tier by time. Of this
group, I’ve been most impressed with Hontz. He ran sub 4:20 last year, has run
some very quick 800s and just looks like he is in sharp, consistent racing
shape. Forsythe raced in December, but I haven’t seen much from him since.
Conway is coming off an injury that stifled the end of his XC season so I’d
like to see a little more from him before I place bets. That being said, Conway
has a 4:15 1600 PR and 1:54 speed. So he can certainly be dangerous.
The top
flat track performer has been Evan Addison of LaSalle. The Junior rolled to a
4:25 victory at the Haverford meet that many know as the meet where LaSalle
runs all their dudes. Addison has also dropped an impressive 8:46 for 3k. Keep
in mind he ran about 4:17 for a full mile last spring and has good track speed.
Then he won the district championship in XC. I’ve said this before and, although
I hesitate to compare anyone to a sub 4 miler, I do see some resemblance
between Addison and Tom Coyle’s careers to date. I won’t be surprised if
Addison cracks the top 3 at states in the mile if he runs it. The last part there
is key as LaSalle seems locked in to be one of those teams that does both
relays and that’s it, making Addison kind of the perfect case study for why the
two-relay rule has not only decreased the quality of the relays, but also
decreased the quality of individual events. Sorry Evan, I’m using this
paragraph about your awesome running to make a political point about the state
championship system. I’ll save that for another day.
Some
sleepers from the year season? I like what James Abrahams has done. I’d like to
see a bit more results from him, but based on his resume he is definitely a
medal contender. I really like what I’ve seen from Pennsbury. I think there is
little to no chance that they run this mile (4x8-DMR seems probable for that
team), but both Kersten and breakout star Jed Scratchard have run excellent
marks to start the year. Lastly, Sam Owori from Seneca Valley looked excellent
in his first individual race. I could definitely see him as individual medal
contender similar to sophomore Tristan Forsythe a season ago.
What Might Happen Next
As
previously mentioned, PA already has two Millrose qualifiers. Neither of those
are the two PA returners from last year’s Millrose Games. I use the term “PA
returners” liberally here as technically Noah Affolder ran in a NY uniform last
year. But now at Carlisle, Noah, who was 2nd at last year’s games,
will almost certainly be back in action at the mile distance in time for this
event. He may have gotten an automatic bid (I think they still do those) and
based on his 1:54 flat track performance, he is good enough shape to challenge for
the PA #1.
The other
returner is Nick Dahl. He hit his stride in the mile recently and gave the
event a fair bit of focus in 2016. He started out this indoor season with a
4:14 split and an 8:30 3k so clearly the kid is fit. I think it’s safe to
expect he makes a bid for Millrose and, no pressure of course, he runs a solid
time. Despite his elite status over the past two plus seasons, Dahl has yet to
compete at an individual event at indoor states. He’s scratched individual
efforts for team goals as a sophomore and junior, both years where he would
have been a contender at either 3k or mile. He’s a team player and another
victim of the two relay rule.
I think
if Dahl does go individual this year, it will be the mile rather than the 3k.
The 3k-DMR double is just no doable in my opinion. Or at least no doable if you
want to compete for a state title in the DMR, which GFS definitely does. It’s either
going to be 4x8-DMR or Mile-DMR for Dahl this season. His next result in the
8-lapper could help determine exactly which way the chips fall.
A
couple other guys to watch for currently outside the state qualifying window
include Connor McMenamin of Souderton (state medalist last indoors), Noah
Beveridge of Butler (can run much faster at this event), Matt Scarpill of CB
South (made the fast heat last year), Jesse Cruise (4:17, 1:55 PRs) and Eric
Kennedy (outdoor medalist at 1600). I’m thinking Beveridge will focus on the 3k
and McMenamin might as well (he crushed a sub 9:20 3200 to end XC). Also
lurking could be Sean Brown of Roman Catholic.
Way Too Early Predictions
I won’t
go incredibly specific because, as you may have guessed, it’s way too early for
predictions. However, I do have a couple hunches that I will outline.
1.
The
big question mark right now is Carlisle. They could potentially win both
distance relays, but those relays would cripple much of their individual goals.
So maybe a Mile-DMR double makes more sense. However, keep in mind that Noah
has already tripled 4x8-800-DMR and crushed it. I think that’s the triple Noah
tries. Sam may or may not get a chance at this mile, but he’s still relatively
young. My gut says both relays, no individuals for him. But that could quickly
change.
2.
I
think Josh Hoey is going to win this race. He seems very focused, determined
and ready to get a statement victory. He’s still searching for his first state
gold which could add some extra incentive. Depending on who else is in the
race, he could be pushed down toward the 4:12ish range, but I’m guessing this
race is won closer to 4:15, especially without Dahl and the Affolders
3.
I
think guys like Bumgarner, Slavin, Kujdych, Beveridge and potentially McMenamin
all go to the 3k, while Cullen, Jihad and others go to the 8 leaving the door
open for some sleepers to emerge in the mile. Hudson Delisle is an intriguing
name. I think he is more of an 800 specialist, but if he pops off a good mile,
he could jump in this event instead and suddenly be contending for a top 6
spot.
4.
If
Evan Addison gets his shot in the mile, I’ve got a feeling he could do really
well. Might be too much pressure to put on the kid, but I’ve seen some
potential that would be cool to see in an individual event. I think there’s a
chance he gets an opportunity this season and they leave him off the 4x8. But
if I had to guess at this moment, he’s running only the relays.
Let me
know what you think about the mile so far and stay tuned for more event by
event break downs to come!
I think you missed the results from Akron this weekend. Beveridge ran a pretty impressive 4:26 for 1600 there to win by over 4 seconds. Mark Brown of Greensburg Salem also ran 4:32 and 2:03 there for a club team called ME Running. Milesplit made a mistake and credited it to someone in Ohio with the same name, but I'm pretty sure it was him (the kid they credited it to hadn't ran a race since 2013).
ReplyDeleteIf Carlisle is going for the team title, they're better off running both Affolders in the mile. They bring Noah back in the 800 and Sam anchors the DMR. Dahl has to run an individual event as a senior. I agree that it's the mile because they want to win the DMR. So, you have 4 studs in the mile:
ReplyDelete!. Noah, 2. Hoey, 3. Dahl 4. Sam. Josh comes back and runs 4 x 2 and 4 x 4. Noah gets a double win in the 8 and then the DMR comes down to GFS and Carlisle. If Plass runs the open 8, Carlisle wins. If not it's a close race.
The good teams always give their guys who have a chance to medal in an open event, the opportunity. Then they pop their great race at NBIN. I could see Carlisle running 10:20 at States tired and then going sub 10:05 at NBIN.
In relation to each other, where are the 5 distance events (8,16, 3k, 4x8, DMR) on the schedule?
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Delete10:00 AM: One event follows the other with no breaks in time. All events Girls then Boys.
4 x 800m relay 9. 60m Hurdles final
60m Hurdles trials 10. 60m Dash final
60m Dash trials 11. 800m run
Mile run 12. 200m dash
60m Hurdles semis 13. 3000m run
60m Dash semis 14. 4 x 200m relay
400m Dash 15. Distance Medley relay (1200, 400, 800, 1600)
PA HS T & F Hall of Fame Induction 16. 4 x 400m relay
That's from the ptfca website. Go by the numbers, format kinda got messed up.
DeleteI can't see Affolder going 800. It's a slightly off-distance for him and I think he'll be on both relays and the mile. Also, what are the chances Hoey doesn't run the 800? If he's got 4x200 and 4x400 will he still do it? I'd say yes for now but you never know...
ReplyDeleteGuys like Delisle and Jihad are definitely more 8 guys, but I question when they could run a faster 800 with next week being at Glenn Mills and most big meets completed.
The last Lehigh meet has spikes, I imagine Delisle runs the 800 there. Can't forget MOC as well. I really can't see Affolder going 800 as well.
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