by etrain11
AAA 3200m
The AAA
3200 has given us so many fantastic memories in recent years. In 2014, Ross
Wilson sprinted by Tony Russell in the final 100 meters to run 8:56 and break
the long standing state meet record in the event. Three runners broke nine
minutes in PA’s greatest ever 3200. Well, the greatest at the time anyway. A
year later, Zach Brehm of Carlisle used a sub 4:20 final mile to sprint ahead
of a stacked field and clock an 8:55, breaking the meet record and leading 4
runners under 9 minutes for the first time. All 8 state medalists had season
bests under 9:01 for 3200 including 6 sub 9 guys. Last year, the heat stopped
us from seeing some more fast times and instead we saw one of the most
impressive upsets of the decade as Matt Kravitz pulled off the impossible
defeating district champs Brophy, Henderson and Wolk.
So what’s
2017 going to give us? I’ve got a sneaky feeling we are heading back down
toward the nine minute barrier. It seems crazy to say considering there have
only been three state championship races in the meet’s long history that have
included a sub 9 8-lapper, but I’ve got a feeling this is going to be a fourth.
Some of
you are probably wondering why I feel this way. Others are wondering why I’m
wasting my time discussing dudes who ran at states before they were even in
high school. And most are probably just skipping down to the part where I list
out my top 8 (keep scrolling my friend, you’ll get there). So allow me to
explain the sub 9 logic. First off, we’ve got an incredibly talented 1-2 punch.
Nate Henderson of JP McCaskey is running really well this spring. He clocked a
3200 PR of 9:03, a near PR of 4:11 and an open PR of 1:55. All in the same meet. Henderson has some extra confidence, having
won a state title during indoors, and he just took care of business against two
of his biggest competitors at the District Championships without all that much
trouble.
But Sam
Affolder looms as a very formidable counterpunch. Affolder has excellent
strength, having placed 2nd at the Northeast Regional meet in Cross
Country and run 9:08 for 3200 a couple weeks prior, but can also drop down and
run 1:54 for 800. And in between? How’s a 4:08 strike you? Sam Affolder has run
faster on an outdoor track than Tony Russell, Chris Spooner, Paul Springer,
Nick Dahl and more. By the way, those aren’t just a list of PA all-time greats,
they are list of sub 9 3200 runners. Oh, by the way, Sam is just a sophomore.
In many
ways, you can compare these two to perhaps PA’s greatest runner of the century,
Craig Miller. Henderson’s triple at LLs was better than anything the magical
Miller did at the meet while Affolder is the fastest, most prolific sophomore
across the board since Craig won XC states and ran 4:06 for a full mile. That’s
pretty good company.
And
yet, there’s a very realistic chance that neither of those two guys wins. Rusty
Kujdych hasn’t dropped a jaw dropping mile like the other two. He wasn’t at this
year’s Penn Relays. But the kid is still turning heads. The junior has fearless
gone to the front just about everywhere he races and pushes the pace, going for
a big time. At districts, he dropped a new PR of 9:07.00 and won another district
title in the loaded D1.
Speaking
of that loaded District (yes, this is the landmark 50th time that I
used that transition this year!), D1 produced just as strong a crop as ever
this past weekend with 11 SQS performances. The top 8 are here and all within
the top 14 seeds including 6 of the top 8 overall. Leading the contenders is
Cheltenham’s Will Griffen. The Cheltenham senior went from solid 2 miler to
state title contender in the blink of an eye as he came up just 3 hundredths of
a second short of unseating Rusty Kujdych’s hold on the top of the Philly area.
Griffen has some experience at this state championship from a year ago and was
a top 50 finisher in XC, but he’s still searching for his first state medal. It
would be pretty wild to see Griffen atop the podium, but it’s looking very
possible after his district performance.
The
other D1 qualifiers who cracked 9:20 were Connor McMenamin, Brian Mass, Ryan
Campbell and Matt D’Aquila. All but Campbell have competed in this event at
outdoor states in the past (McMenamin as a sophomore), but Campbell may have
the most upside. He was the Henderson 3200 champ, ran a Kiwanis record 5k and
anchored CRN to an awesome DMR finish at the Penn Relays. I may actually like
Campbell’s odds at a top 4 finish the best out of all these guys as I’d imagine
he will be motivated after his 5th place finish at districts.
McMenamin and Campbell were 6th and 7th at XC states this
past fall.
A year
ago, the WPIAL took spots 2 through 5 at the state championship while District
One took just 1 medal (and it was 8th). So recent history would
suggest we should give a long look at the D7 qualifiers. The top seed is #10
Noah Beveridge of Butler who ran a new PR of 9:20.85 at districts. The time may
not seem all that mind-blowing, but Beveridge handled himself well against a
stacked field and ran faster than even AA standout Zach Skolnekovich in his winning
effort. Most probably still remember Noah’s clutch run at states during XC when
he moved all the way up to 5th in the final standings. Trey
Razanauskas, Casey Conboy and Mark Provenzo are the other qualifiers from this
district and will all be looking for medals to keep the hot streak alive for
this district.
If we
are going to talk about 2016, we have to also mention North Pocono’s David
Haines. The senior ran a great 9:22 to defeat district mate Jack Zardecki and
now the pair are right in the hunt for medals. Haines seemed like he had more
in the tank after districts and should benefit from having other fast dudes in
the pack to help share the lead. I think Haines has a lot of upside as a medal
contender in this group. And he’s not the only small district guy with a shot.
Seth Slavin of Pleasant Valley won his district in “just” 9:25, but was a
medalist each of the past two years during indoor at 3k. District 11 has
medaled at states in this event each of the past two years. Mitchell Etter of State
College ran a 9:27 at the Shippensburg Invite behind Sam Affolder and, although
he’s been relatively quiet since then, has incredible upside in this race.
State College could really use the extra points as well as they try to defend
their state title. Isaac Davis, a top 5 XC state finisher in AA, and Amadou
Diallo of Allerdice, a state medalist in AAA, are both guys who can drop a lot
of time against this top tier competition.
But the
guy I feel like I’ve glossed over all year is Ryan James of O’Hara. The O’Hara
boys have had some bad luck recently with falls and meet cancellations, but RJ
has quietly put together an excellent season. He’s run a PR for 3200, he rolled
through the DELCO league, even broke 2 minutes in the 800. The guy is a huge
talent who has yet to race guys that are truly on his level. And we now that
James can pull off the surprise on the big stage like he did when he anchored O’Hara’s
DMR to a state title indoors in 2016. Also worth noting, Kevin James’s best
finish at states in the 3200 was third. Wouldn’t be surprised if Ryan has that
in the back of his mind.
So now
that I’ve named practically all the guys in the entire race, I should probably
get into my predictions. Here’s my basic thought process. This year was the
year of District 3. They took the top 4 spots at XC states, they had their best
team finish in XC, the DMR and the 4x8 of the past 10 years or so and they put
District 1 down every chance they had. That starts with Sam Affolder and Nate
Henderson, two of the absolute best we have in the state. But that also
includes a guy by the name of Zach Lefever. This kid is a phenomenal runner
who, although he has been splitting time with the 4x8, has still run 9:17 for
3200 and 8:31 for 3k. He could really turn heads in this race, especially in
the heat. Remember, Zach was the top runner from District 3 at states in this
event a year ago.
Could
those guys take the top 3 spots at this race? It’s definitely in play. I think
if not top 3, then 3 of the top 4. It just seems like it’s been that kind of
year for the district.
I
expect this race to be fast. Henderson usually doesn’t mess around with the
pace. Kujdych certainly hasn’t seen a 65 second lap he doesn’t like. And they
are both incredibly fit and very aware that a 4:08 miler is lurking in their midst.
Remember when the stacked field of 2015 let Zach Brehm hang around at 4:30-4:35
pace? The miler ended up getting the best of them. I would be surprised if they
don’t at least try to burn out Sam’s kick a bit.
Ultimately,
I like Kujdych a lot and respect the marks he has put down this year, but I’d
say this one comes down to Nate vs. Sam. These two have been going at it a lot
this year, dating back to XC, but it’s worth noting that Nate has almost always
beaten Sam. It’s been close at times, but Henderson defeated Sam at districts
and states in XC and then took him down twice at districts. It’s not clear how
much Sam was saving for day two in the 3200 this past Friday, but Nate beat him
in the 1600 too just to make things clear about his fitness. On the flip side,
Nate is coming off two straight 9th place finishes at states in the
3200. He was 9th as a sophomore in a terrific finish (9:08 got him 9th
that year which is seemingly unreal) but was also 9th last year in a
surprise (I think he was dealing with some type of injury). Sam needs the
points for Carlisle’s team title quest, but Nate is arguably more focused as he
skipped the 1600 trials to focus specifically on this event.
When
the dust settles, I think we see sub 9 and I think we see a race to remember.
But who will win? Well, I picked Zach Brehm in 2015, trusting in my talent and
speed theory and letting the state champ back me up. That same intuition would
point toward Sam Affolder. I’ve also leaned two heavy on the favorite at times
and shied away from an upset pick which hurt me multiple times last year
(although lets be real I was never guessing Kravitz, Espinal or Milligan to
win). So really, I should pick Sam Affolder here for the win.
8.
David Haines, North Pocono 9:16.50
7. Noah
Beveridge, Butler 9:13.75
6. Ryan
James, O’Hara 9:10.43
5. Connor
McMenamin, Souderton 9:08.55
4. Zach
Lefever, Ephrata 9:06.99
3.
Rusty Kujdych, Neshaminy 9:05.24
2. Sam
Affolder, Carlisle 9:05.16
1. Nate
Henderson, JP McCaskey 8:59.82
Couldn’t
do it. I’m picking Henderson. It feels right. The medal positions here were absolutely
brutal to pick. I ended picking in favor of the front running types over the
guys who tend to pick dudes off which may be a huge mistake. Seth Slavin was
the most painful omission for sure. I really like Etter as a contender, but I
think this may just be too deep of a field for him to hang with. Anybody who
has an off day could slip down the standings really far, similar to what
happened to Brophy and Henderson a year ago.
Interesting
team title implications here surround McMenamin. Souderton is a sneaky podium
team if their hurdler is on point this weekend. If McMenamin picks up 5, 6 or
maybe even 8 points they have a really nice point total on paper.
Like the picks and the times you went with. HOWEVER given the times in D3 how can you justify the times you have picked for the D2 race. Skolnekovivh put 9 seconds on Beveridge in the last 1600 of the 3200 at Baldwin and Bumgarner's converted 3000 is 5 seconds faster then Skolnekovich's best 3200. Not sure which will win the D2 3200 but it will be under 9:10. 3rd will probably be at least 20 seconds behind them.
ReplyDeleteOOOPS sorry - meant AAA and AA. Come from another state with different designations.
DeleteThe times aren't really meant to indicate a skill disparancy. If Bumgarner and Skolnekovich were in the AAA race, I'd have both well under 9:20. However, in the AA race, I'm just not sure who is going to push the pace and keep it fast. As you mention, AA doesn't appear to have a lot of depth behind the big two so I don't know how that will affect the final times. Just speculatory though.
DeleteThe big mystery is Sam. Does he go all out knowing the 1600 is 2 hours away? Look what happened to Brehm. My hunch is he goes for points, not the win, and goes for the 1600 win.
ReplyDeleteI agree (part of why I picked Nate in my predictions). It's a tricky line to walk though, right? Like how much is the right amount to save? How much is the right amount of points to make it worth it? Hypothetically does a 9:15 for 4th and 5 points save you enough energy relative to a 9 flat for 10 points to make it worth the difference in the 1600? I have no idea what the formula is or would be.
DeleteI would think Sam wants to win 1600 so is willing to settle for less points in 32. He strikes me as a speed guy as we have seen, with extended range only at all out effort.
DeleteI disagree with this notion of "saving up" for another race. Everyone who made it to this meet qualified not just because of incredible talent, but also because of a fiercely competitive attitude. I don't believe for a second that anyone could toe the line at the state championship and tell themselves "OK, I think I'll just go easy on this one". Yes, that's an exaggeration, but I sincerely expect Sam to do everything in his power to win both events. Kids like him just don't accept losing.
DeleteOk. You can feel that way but you can"t run an all out 3200 then a 1600 2 hours later. This is track. Not Tennis or golf.
DeleteI don't mean to come off as arrogant or naïve. I was never a good doubler, and I was running JV times. My point is that Sam (and Skolnekovich in AA) are so good that they can go all-out in both and still be very competitive.
DeleteI will concede this: from a coaching/team perspective, the best strategy might very well be try to maximize points in both events. This would probably involve saving energy in the 3200.
My rebuttal is that the athletes have no real way of knowing how much to save, and therefore will end up running just as hard as they would if this was their only event. It's not natural for any competitor to hold back at the championship level. Once they are in the heat of the moment, I think that these guys are gonna throw any preconceived plan out the window and just go for it.
I think Affolder goes all out for the win in the 3200. He’s a unique talent that just seems to have a step above what PA has had in the last decade. Yes, he’s only a sophomore but by now he’s been in enough big races at the highest levels to be considered, well, a junior maybe? I don’t know, but the point is that lack of experience shouldn’t be a big concern in this 3200. I understand the thinking that maybe he holds back a little for the 1600 and goes for what points he can pick up in the 3200 but I don’t think that’s happening for a few reasons.
DeleteFirst, on paper the 1600 would be the lessor effort of the two since based on 1600 PR’s he has 5 seconds vs Conway and even more on the rest of the field. 5 seconds is huge at that level, although it does seem that states always seems to bring out someone like a Milligan who drops a massive 6 second PR. But on paper anyway the 3200 would be the race requiring the bigger effort to win so why not go all out then? Secondly, the 3200 is loaded with talent so the likely difference between 1st and say, 4th is usually only about 5 seconds, which is well within his potential so why not go for it? Finally and most importantly, this is the first race on Saturday for Carlisle and they should be going for the team win and if so, they’re probably going to need every point. Last year State College literally needed every single point and it was their pole vaulter on Friday and 4x800 on Saturday who came up big early and set the tone. Carlisle could use that early Saturday big time performance to build momentum too.
But just saying he’s going to go for the win and him actually winning are two hugely different things. Nate Henderson is a tremendous talent who’s sort of been a little in the shadows of the Affolders and Hoey’s as the top PA distance guy the past two years. And he’s one of those rare guys who just never seems to have a bad race. He’s got 1:54-800 and 4:11-1600 speed so it’s not like someone can sit on his lead and figure to outkick him. Which makes me really conflicted picking against him (and I’m not crazy about going against Etrain's prediction either). But unless Henderson is setting a low 8:50’s pace I think Affolder sticks with him and goes all out on the 3200 and I think he wins this. Affolder literally isn’t the same runner from XC six months ago. He’s moved to another level and his results show it. If he and Henderson are both on and they get into it and separate from the field it’s got the potential to have a Wilson vs Russell finish and record setting time. I hope that’s what happens.
Not to be lost in this either are the two D1 guys Kujdych and Griffen who battled each other to 9:07’s last week and a big group behind them.
My prediction/guess:
Affolder – 8:59
Henderson - 9:01
Kujdych – 9:05
Griffen – 9:06
James – 9:10
McMenamin – 9:12
Lefever – 9:13
Campbell – 9:14
- RJJL
The Affolders have shown they don’t run for 2nd. The word is their family is on the move and they're only in PA this one year. Yet XC and Indoor proved that going for team state championship is the priority for them over building a resume of individual stuff. They tripled and quadrupled in Indoor states. If the team needs points, they answer the call. Sam will win the 3200 and if he has anything left he and Kole will work together for the 1600.
Delete8. Brian Mass
ReplyDelete7. Matthew D'Aquila
6. Connor McMenamin
5. Ryan James
4. Zach Lefever
3. Sam Affolder
2. Nathan Henderson
1. Rusty Kujdych
Mostly unrelated to this race, Sam Affolder is moving once again. That means that Noah Beveridge is the top returner from the state XC meet. If you told me this at the beginning of last season I would have laughed at you because he finished outside of the top 5 for entire begin of the season. I agree with our prediction that he will get 7th. If Affolder focuses on the mile Henderson will be the easy favorite.
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