Coach, What Do We Do?

by etrain11

Guys, we are going to play a game.

Sometimes, I act like I know what I’m talking about, but really I’m just guessing like everybody else. The real pressure isn’t on me, it’s on the coaches that have to make the tough calls about where to put their talented stand outs on race day. But here’s your chance to be a hypothetical coach! I’ve made a list of some of the trickiest decisions that I’ve thought of heading into state championship season and want to get your thoughts on what events each team should pick. I’ve outlined the scenarios for you below and am excited to hear your takes.

Ryan Thrush
Thrush is the defending state champion in the AA 400 meters. He’s clocked times in the 48s range both indoors and outdoors in the past 12 months and, with the right tactics, could maybe dip into the 47 range. There’s a natural desire to defend your title and, although there are some developing stars, Thrush seems to be a sizable favorite as things currently stand.

However, the Brookville senior also flashed amazing potential in the 800 when he clocked a 1:50.89 at the Butler Invitational. That time is fastest in PA this year and only Domenic Perretta has run that fast at the AA state meet in its entire history. In my opinion, the 800 seems like the deeper event with guys like Kamil Jihad, Donovan Myers, Tyler Lesser and Joe Cullen all looming as challengers, but that line up could help push Thrush to an historic time if he focuses on it.

But Thrush’s decision doesn’t have to be a simple this or that. He can try both like he has the previous two seasons. He has not been able to quite breakthrough for two top tier races, but he has also done a lot of practicing with this double (and other creative doubles) which may put him in a position to pull off something historic.

So, Coach, what do you do?

Zach Skolnekovich, Quaker Valley
Skolnekovich was 2nd at last year’s 3200 behind only 3x gold medalist Dominic Hockenbury. Since that time, he’s made the Footlocker Finals, ran under 9:20 twice and just recently added a 4:14 full mile to his resume. The Quaker Valley senior appears to be in terrific shape and just recently outdueled two of his top tier challengers individually in Forsythe and Bumgarner.

Skolnekovich would likely be the favorite in either the 1600 or the 3200 at states. So which one should he pick? He seems to like the 3200 better, but has added the shorter event to his typical meet schedule in 2017. Maybe that means he is gearing up for a double? Or maybe he thinks his better shot at gold may be utilizing his speed in the mile rather than trying to out-grind Bumgarner yet again?

Coach-what do you suggest?

Carlisle, just in general
Sam Affolder could potentially win 3 different individual events if he focused on each one on its own. He also has a capable 4x4 and 4x8 relay, the latter of which won the state title indoors and is in the mix for another one outdoors. Isaac Kole has developed into a really strong individual runner. And the team is hungry for that title that alluded them in XC and indoors. With Sam on his way out, this could be the last chance for the Carlisle dynasty to earn team gold.

Help us, Coach, you are our only hope.

Matt Scarpill, CB South
Scarpill has run 1:56 (on the double), 4:21 and 9:33 already this spring. He was an indoor state medalist in the 3k, but has focused a lot on the mile in past years. Realistically, he could run an SQS in any of these three events. And in District One, it’s not like there are any “weak” events. There’s depth everywhere. So the question is,:what should Scarpill pick? The 16-8 double? The 32-8 double? He’s got options.

Coach, I’m gonna need you to weigh in here.

Josh Hoey, Bishop Shanahan
Bishop Shanahan is the reigning indoor team state champions and got a nice boost from Hoey’s 10 point victory in the open 800. Heading toward outdoors, BS will once again be in the mix out front, but may be tighter for points as they 4x2 is eliminated from the schedule, the 4x8 gets tougher to score in and more.

Hoey has big talent at both the 800 and the 1600. He was 3rd and 2nd at states for the longer distance in 2016 and also won Penn Relays. His time this past indoor season put him in the top 5 for PA athletes ever. But he has also had good success in the 800, winning his first ever individual state title in that event and adding a new PR of 1:51.9 in his trip down to Florida. The 800 also appears to be the easier event as Sam Affolder is looming as a primary challenger after a blazing 4:08.

The other dynamic to consider here is a double or a triple. Josh is probably going to be featured on the 4x4, but he could also either jump on the 4x8 (which medaled indoors without him) or potentially run the 16-8 double and try to come away with extra points. Those would be relatively unprecedented for Josh as he’s been focused on a single event with a 4x4 at all of his major championship appearances, but Shanahan may need the points.

So, Coach, any ideas?

Liam Conway, Owen J Roberts
Conway successfully medaled in both the 1600 and the 800 indoors. Outdoors, he followed things up with a similarly successful early season double of 4:13 and 1:53. Those times are both fantastic and indicate he can pull off the double again come outdoors. However, there are extra races at Shippensburg as runners have to traverse both trials and finals. The extra effort could be enough to hamper one or both of his races. In addition, although Conway was the runner-up indoors, if both Hoey and Affolder run the mile, maybe a fresh 800 better suits his individual gold medal chances. But does he care more about that or just doing what he feels his best and not worrying about the rest of the competition as he can’t control them anyway?

What say you, Coach?

Nate Henderson, JP McCaskey
So this one probably seems a little silly, but I will lay it out anyway. Henderson is the defending indoor state champion over 3,000 and seems like a logical title bet in the 3200 for outdoors. I don’t think that’s going to change and, barring some type of injury problem, I think he will run the 32.

But over recent years, Henderson has really bolstered his speed. He’s got 1:53/4:11 chops and runs 50 point type splits on the 4x4. Does a 3200-1600 double make sense? Only the 16 trials would come before his 3200 final so he would still be able to focus on his primary event, but also add another medal opportunity to his portfolio. Should he focus up on a single target or spread his wings and get greedy?

Coach! Say something!

6 comments:

  1. Skolnekovich.
    Goes for both. Bumgarner gives him a fight in 3200.
    Carlisle.
    Sam runs 4X8 and 1600. (Noah comes back for the relay?)
    Hoey.
    Runs 800 and 4X4.

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  2. I heard that Hoey was looking to do 16-8 double at D1 meet meaning he is in line to run both at States. As of now, Shanahan isn't qualified in the 4x8 so maybe the rest of those guys run the 4x4 w/out Josh? They certainly have enough left to move onto States without him (Hughes, Jonah Hoey, Yoquinto, and both Alleyne's)

    I say Conway will go after both. He's shown that he's strong enough to handle the 16-8 double. I think he will eventually move into the 32-8 next year but for now I see him doubling 16-8.

    The 16 could be very interesting in D1 this year-I could see at least 10-12 guys hitting the SQS if it shakes out the way I think.

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    1. No way Hoey runs anything but one solo event and the 4x400, it's what they did last year and in indoor and what their coaches probably believe works best for them.

      Conway might go for both but would probably be better served choosing just one.

      Henderson in the 3200 only is a lock.

      Affolders have shown they'll do whatever is best for the team so it could be anything. Sam would be the favorite in the 1600 or 3200 even with 4x800 duties.

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  3. Thrush- go for the 400/800 double. This is risky. If he were to pick just 1, I can almost guarantee he would win it. But he doesn't seem like the kind of guy to do that. He'll have no trouble getting through the finals on Friday, since he'll only have to go like 50/1:59. On Saturday, I'll say a repeat win in the 400, but that 800 final is gonna be almost impossible. Still, he can manage 2 state medals, and then hopefully run fast at nationals.

    Skolnekovich- both 1600 and 3200. He's entered in both at WPIALs, so that's a start. In all honesty, his best competition will come at districts with Forsythe in the 16 and Bumgarner in the 32. He knows who he needs to beat to get the wins. I'd have him cruise through the 16 trials on Friday, then chase a fast time in the 3200. The 1600 is a low risk final coming after that, and he proved at Baldwin that he has the chops.

    Carlisle- the team title puts a wrench in this one. I think they load up the 4x8, and maybe even get Noah back for that. I'd go Sam in the 1600 and Kole in the 800, since those seem to be natural events for them. Anything more would risk no points at all later in the meet. Just ask Brehm.

    Scarpill- 1600. Try a double at districts, but I think he's best at the 16.

    Hoey- 800 and 4x400. Again, the team is gonna have an effect on his decision. If he wanted to maximize points, a 4x8-16-4x4 makes sense. However, I can't see him running the 4x8. Maybe hop on if it qualifies for finals? More likely he picks one individual event, and this is where its tricky. Normally, I would advise a 16/8 guy to pick the 16. He wouldn't have to run as hard to make finals, and some weird stuff always happens in 800 preliminaries (getting tripped, boxed in, or just not having it). But I would want to avoid Affolder, who I have in the 1600. I see the 8 as his best chance for individual gold, since he's the only AAA guy who can hit 1:50.

    Conway- 1600. He's a nice 800 guy, but he'd scare more guys in the 1600. Plus, there's a lot more guys who are 800 specialists (Wagner, Klick, Whitfield, Bailey) who are right at his level in that event. I bet he's got a 4:10 in him, and there's not many guys who can match that.

    Henderson- 3200. I think he just ran a 9:03, so he's in serious shape. As I've hinted at above, running the 1600 risks dealing with Hoey and Affolder. With no Dahl in the picture, the 3200 is his for the taking.

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    1. The Hoey's tend to go for the individual titles so I'd expect to see Josh in the 800 where he's relatively uncontested. If he goes after the 1600 he's blocked by Sam Affolder, the 3200 is blocked by Henderson. His best shot at gold is the 800. The 4x800 will see a stacked Carlisle team that still has Affolder and Kole in individual events, and maybe two each as they go for the team title.

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  4. Nate takes down Brad and Craig Miller league records. L L League.

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