PA HS XC Top 50 Rankings: Week Five

By Jarrett Felix

Alright so work with me here, you’re going to have to read some of my more general thoughts before we get into the meat of the list. Or you can skip the next couple paragraphs and just go straight to the list. That’s the power of technology.

So I was typing out this list from my Excel file to a word document and a couple things really struck me. The big thing is the emergence of AAA District 3 on this list. D3 has always been strong, especially on the track where they’ve had a number of state champs. But in the last few XC years, the district has struggled relative to their counterparts out west (District 7) and certainly relative to District One, the dominant force year in and year out (small side note, at outdoor states this past spring the AAA distance state titles were won by District 2, District 6, District 6 and District 11 so how about that). But this year, I’ve got D3 guys with 4 of the 5 AAA spots overall. They also have 9, 12, 14, 16, 17 and 18! That’s wild. That would be, assuming I’ve done all my math correct, a whopping 10 of the top 20 individuals if my list ended up forecasting the future for Hershey (editor’s note: there’s literally a zero percent chance of that happening).

In 2006, District One took 15 of the top 20 spots (shout out to Coatesville and Henderson for taking 8 of those by themselves). In 2007, District One took 14. But since then, they’ve only been in the double digits twice (2012 and 2013 with 10 and 11 respectively) and have averaged a little over 7.5 of the top 20. During that same eight-year stretch from 2008 to 2015, District 3 has had a total of 16 top 20 finishers with just 4 top 10 finishes. So is this just a huge year for District 3 or am I really underrating the District One guys?

The other interesting thing about the District One guys is the youth of them all. Out of the top 6 district one guys, four are juniors. Considering the top senior from District One at states has been 1st, 3rd, 1st, 4th and 3rd over the past five seasons, it seems reasonable that I’m sleeping on somebody (probably Galligan who, unfortunately, we didn’t get to see race this weekend, fingers crossed he’s healthy).

Also, I’m a little worried that I undervalued the Foundation Invite relative to Carlisle. From looking at Paul Short results, I think I should have given the guys at Foundation a bit more love in last week’s edition of the rankings (individuals and perhaps team as well). Sorry guys, hopefully you come back and make noise next weekend to boost your stock. Stephen Paul of LaSalle is #51 this week and Gabe Sullivan of Pleasant Valley is #52 (both guys ran Foundation).

And finally, the A individual state race is going to be terrific. There are a ton of guys returning from the top of the field a year ago, but it’s the guys who are outside that top five group that have been the most fun. Although Forsythe has been terrific, I still think the championship is relatively up for grabs and even the top 3-5 is very up in the air in my opinion. Quinn Serfass and Zach Wortman were two of my favorite performers from this past weekend and both are big A sleepers who just missed out on the list.

Now, to the actual list.

50. Carlos Schultz, Fr Conestoga (1 AAA)
It’s extremely rare that a freshman makes the Top 50 XC rankings. Especially this early in the season. In the past, Josh Hoey and Sam Ritz (a couple 4:11 sophomore milers) have made the list. Those are the only guys I’ve found in my digging across both blogs. And neither of those guys broke 16 at Lehigh. Freshman who have broke 16 at Lehigh in the last decade: Ned Willig (15:55 at Districts), Jake Brophy (15:53 at Districts). Those are the only two times I can remember it happening. Oh and Carlos Schultz (15:56 at Paul Short). Look out PA.

49. Noah Beveridge, Jr Butler (7 AAA)
Beveridge quietly dominated at the District course. I talked above about how I might be underrated District One, but how about AAA District 7? They’ve been easily the second best district in XC over the past 7 years and they took 2-3-4-5 this past spring in the 3200m (shameless plug, we did an interview with them over the summer). Beveridge was a top 50 finisher at states last year who didn’t really come on until the stretch run of the season. Dude knows how to bring his “A” game for the big meets.

48. Christian Groff, Jr Hempfield (3 AAA)
A lot to like about Hempfield the last two weeks including their emerging star Christian Groff. He’s been a top 7 varsity runner each of the past two seasons, but this is the first season’s he’s really took a leap into the elite tier. His brother was a 4:16 miler for Hempfield not too long ago.

47. Nate Romberger, Sr Red Land (3 AAA)
46. Patrick Jacobson, Sr Dallastown (3 AAA)
45. Eric Kennedy, Sr Kiski (7 AAA)
44. Evan Addison, Jr LaSalle (12 AAA)
43. Bryan Keller, Sr CR North (1 AAA)
42. Mark Brown, So Greensburg Salem (7 AA)
41. Andrew Sullivan, Jr Hershey (3 AAA)
40. Ryan Campbell, Jr CR North (1 AAA)
39. Matt Scarpill, Sr CB South (1 AAA)
38. Ben Littman, Sr Winchester Thurston (7 A)
37. Matt D’Aquila, Sr Lower Merion (1 AAA)

36. David Haines, Sr North Pocono (2 AA)
Remember Matt Kravitz? Well he may have grabbed the spotlight from Haines a year ago (overshadowing his state medal winning performance), but he also likely taught the kid a thing or two about how to perform on the big stage. A 15:49 at Paul Short indicates he listened well.

35. Shaun Bullock, Sr DT West (1 AAA)

34. Avery Lederer, Jr Penncrest (1 AAA)
His performance at Salesianum was really fast for that course and puts him on par with a lot of guys who finished the season as top 20 performers in Pennsylvania. He’s fought tough battles with Endres, Abrahams and now Conboy in recent weeks and, although he’s come up short of victory, he’s displayed a real toughness that you have to respect looking ahead to the championship meets where toughness will be important.

33. Evan Hutton, Sr William Tennent (1 AAA)
We have a writer named Evan Hatton so all the more reason to root for this guy. He’s been phenomenal this year. Runs the hilly courses well (Belmont, DeSales) and then crushes the flat stuff. When’s the last time William Tennent had a AAA state medalist? How about a AAA Top 50 finisher?

32. Gavin Inglis, Sr O’Hara (12 AAA)

31. Jonah Powell, So Grove City (10 AA)
I said this in my recap, but just to clarify: eerily similar result to Jacob Kildoo’s sophomore season. Take a look back at my Top 100 of the last decade post (another shameless plug) and look at Kildoo’s resume. It’s pretty darn special. Kildoo finished 17th in AAA as a sophomore with a time that would have been fast enough for 3rd in AA (and, by the way, he finished 27th at Foot Locker Regionals that year).

30. Seth Slavin, Sr Pleasant Valley (11 AAA)
29. James Abarahms, Sr Haverford (1 AAA)
28. Spencer Smucker, Jr West Chester Henderson (1 AAA)
27. Aaron Pfeil, Sr South Fayette (7 AA)

26. Casey Conboy, Sr Baldwin (7 AAA)
Combine Noah Beveridge’s “the WPIAL is underrated” logic with Avery Lederer’s “that time at Salesianum is legit” rationale and bang you get Conboy at spot #26 with room to grow. By the way, when’s the last time Baldwin had a guy in the top 20 at states?

25. Joe Cullen, Jr Wyomissing (3 AA)
24. Connor Walsh, Sr Cambridge Springs (10 A)
23. Jared Giannascoli, Jr Lower Dauphin (3 AAA)
22. Isaac Kole, Sr Carlisle (3 AAA)
21. Colton Cassell, Sr Lower Dauphin (3 AAA)
20. Nick Feffer, Sr State College (6 AAA)
19. Ben Bumgarner, Sr Waynesburg Central (7 AA)

18. Alex Tomasko, Sr Mechanicsburg (3 AAA)
When’s the last time Mechanicsburg had a state medalist? How about two state medalists? In case you haven’t notice, I’m just going to ask questions and not look up answers.

17. Tristan Forsythe, Jr Winchester Thurston (7 A)
16. Liam Conway, Jr Owen J. Roberts (1 AAA)
15. Isaac Davis, Jr Jersey Shore (4 AA)
14. Morgan Cupp, Jr Mechanicsburg (3 AAA)
What a talented tier of juniors. You can probably convince me to rotate these guys in a number of different combinations, but for now Cupp is my guy. He’s really strong so far this year and has finished at the front of his “tier” just about every race. Now the question over the last month is, can he make the jump into that next tier?

Ok, you can’t blame me for not answering that question. It hasn’t even happened yet. What do you want me to predict the future? Maybe with some type of organized prediction style post? Please.

13. Mark Provenzo, Sr Franklin Regional (7 AAA)
12. Connor McMenamin, Sr Souderton (1 AAA)
11. Kyler Shea, Sr Lower Dauphin (3 AAA)

10. Rusty Kujdych, Jr Neshaminy (1 AAA)
Can Rusty win the District One championship this year? He just ran 15:20s with almost a month still left until districts. I think he’s roughly 40 seconds ahead of where he was at this meet last year as well when he ended up rocketing down the stretch run of the season and placed 19th in Hershey. Stay tuned.

9. Ryan James, Sr O’Hara (12 AAA)
8. Liam Galligan, Sr Springfield (1 AAA)
7. Zach Skolnekovich, Sr Quaker Valley (7 AA)

6. Zach Lefever, Sr Ephrata (3 AAA)
You could have convinced me that Lefever has done enough thus far to warrant inclusion in the top 5. That’s how impressed I’ve been with him the last 12 months.

5. Josh Hoey, Jr Bishop Shanahan (1 AAA)

4. Sam Affolder, So Carlisle (3 AAA)

3. Nick Dahl, Sr GFS (Independent)
Dahl is the only guy within sniffing distance of Noah Affolder by track PRs (4:08-8:58). He ran the equivalent of 9:15 for 3200m as a freshman. The guy has a ton of talent. And this is the best I’ve ever seen him look on a cross country pitch (read that in a British announcer voice inside your head). It looks like Dahl may pursue Footlocker this year rather than NXN (a change for GFS) which should make things fun as that’s where I expect at least Noah Affolder and Nate Henderson to be competing at season’s end (and hopefully PA sends an armada up to VCP).

And heck, we don’t have to wait that long before we see Dahl against Affolder as the pair will go head to head at Manhattan next weekend. Also in attendance will be DT West, LaSalle, Bishop Shanahan, Germantown Academy and West Chester Henderson. A battle between 4 of the top 5 individuals and 3 of the top 4 (or by many people’s list 3) teams in the state? That sounds pretty good! Somebody should write a preview about that or something.

2. Nathan Henderson, Sr JP McCaskey (3 AAA)

1. Noah Affolder, Sr Carlisle (3 AAA)
We’ve never had a guy like this before. I thought Brophy was amazing, but this kid somehow takes it up another notch. Is sub 15 at Hershey possible? It certainly feels that way. He honestly doesn’t ever seem concerned about states, he just wants to go out and win Footlocker Nationals. Maybe that’s a weakness? I don’t know, I’m grasping at straws here.

The next big milestone for Noah will be the 12 minute barrier at Manhattan. He won the race last year in 12:14 (a 7 second margin of victory). Alex Ostberg ran 11:57.2 on the 2.5 mile course in 2014, Ed Cheserek ran 11:58.7 in 2012 and 11:55.39 in 2011. Prior to that, the record belonged to Joe Rosa in 2009 (12:03.8). PA’s record time for the lay out belongs to Tony Russell who ran 12:20.0 in 2013 (when he won the Eastern States Championship).

As is usually the case with Noah, that record seems to be in serious jeopardy. 

39 comments:

  1. shout out to the suburban one league national conference with 5 runners currently on etrain's top 50 list (the most of any conference).

    Bold Prediction of the Post: Seneca Valley's sophomore Sam Owori will place 28th in AAA this year.

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    1. I could see Owori 30th, maybe even 29th, but no ways he's 28th.

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    2. I won't lie, I laughed

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  2. Mid Penn conference has ten.

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  3. When does N Henderson race again, is he going to Manhattan?

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    1. Lqncaster-Lebanon league meet Oct. 18.

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  4. Just so everyone knows, I won't be putting out a preview for the Manhattan Invitational today as I'm working on a few other things. Feel free to use this post and the weekend recap posts (some predictions already up over there) to discuss the meet and share your thoughts.

    I'm predicting Affolder runs about 12:06 or so and I think Carlisle beats DT West. This is a big chance for LaSalle to prove something and I'm definitely excited to see Hoey and Dahl. I think in a front loaded race like this, the front running of the Affolders and Kole could pay big dividends. However, the match up I will be most interested in is watching each team's #4 runners match up. I think that's where the state meet could be won come November.

    Let me know what you guys think.

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    1. Also, I tried to do a podcast today on my run, but it didn't record well because I didn't have good headphones. I should have things set up to do one early next week. Do people have any opinion on me bringing the podcast back?

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    2. Yes please to the podcast

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  5. I'm feeling a DTW win over Carlsile to today.
    -JEB

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  6. Awaiting results from Manhattan. Carlisle was only PA school in top 10 in 8th. William Tennet invitational is so short it's ridiculous. Nonetheless, another big win for Kujdych and a big statement by the CRN team

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  7. It's a full 5k, but it's a net downhill. That's why it is fast

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    1. It's suspect. Those times are ridiculous.

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    2. I'm 95% sure that that course is short. Don't get me wrong, it's a fast course but I am really not a fan when people say that it's a full 5k. If they want to label it as a 3 miler I'm ok with that, but it definitely misleads people and (to an extent) discredits others runners times when they actually ran a legitimate 5k.

      No disrespect to other runners that ran today (solid results regardless of the course length), but I would add on about 20-30 seconds.

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    3. With that logic you can also say that the Carlisle Invitational was short. The tennent invite used to be short but it was lengthened to a full 5k a couple years ago.

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  8. Results I saw on Manhattan website said Carlisle was 7th and DTW was 8th. So two PA teams in top ten.

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  9. Does coaching matter? There's some results this year that would indicate yes it does, and big time.

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  10. William Tennent along with Northampton both are short courses. Pretty much any course that kids run year in and year out substantially faster than Lehigh on is sus

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    1. Imagine playing having the game of your life in basketball and then finding out the net had been lowered a foot. Or being a baseball pitcher and throwing a shutout only to find out later the mound had been moved up five feet. Same thing.

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  11. WOW this championships season is going to be FUN.

    Manhattan Invitational we see Carlisle edging out DT West again by under 10 points (281 to 287). The tight spread of 28 seconds was key for DTW. Their top 5 have been mixing around all season this time their order is as follows:
    Shaun Bullock - 13:12
    Jake O'Neill - 13:18
    Drew Alansky - 13:22
    Ryan Barton - 13:33
    Tyler Rollins - 13:40
    (6th man Patrick Blair - 13:51)

    If this team can touch this spread to about 20 seconds they have got a great chance at states to topple Carlisle. This week Bullock was able to out kick Isaac Kole to break up that Carlisle top 3. Furthermore, if you look at Carlisle's performance I was surprised to see Jack Wisner in 101th place back in 13:46. Not a bad race by any means, but for this team to succeed at states he is going to have to keep his eye on Tyler Robbins.

    I also really liked what we saw from LaSalle this weekend. Evan Addison (13:03) and Stephen Paul (13:11) leading the way show they are both big time medal contenders for the state meet. It looks like DT West will end up putting 5 runners between 30th and 60th at states [could we see a state title winner without any medalists?!?], while LaSalle might need two medalists to give themselves a chance. Branden Price's 13:26 places him between DT West's 3-4 runners, but he'll probably want to be slotted between their 2-3 at states. Also if we see Jack Galbreath (or Quinn O'Neill) with his brother we see a drop in points by 15, putting this squad at 298 points, which is right in the conversation with Carlisle and DT West.

    William Tennent:
    How legit is this course? I know when I was in high school it was short, but they extended it back in 2014. The course is a net downhill. What does the course mean for implications on how people run at districts?

    Cross Country is all about comparison. So I will be looking at William Tennent Invitation compared with the District 1 Championships

    2015 William Tennent Invitational:
    CB West: 0:33 1-5 Split | 16:00 Avg
    (Rock Fortna -- 15:44)
    (Brian Iatarola -- 15:51)
    (Ben Smullen -- 15:57)

    CR North: 0:12 1-5 Split | 16:24 Avg
    (Ryan Campell - 16:31)
    (Tim Haas - 16:19)
    (Bryan Keller - 16:28)

    Other Individuals:
    Rahi Shah - 15:47.40
    Rusty Kujdych - 15:48.70
    Matthew Scarpill - 15:55.00
    Joe Maguire -- 16:00.90
    Matthew Allen -- 16:01.60
    Sean Rahill -- 16:04.50
    Tucker Desko - 16:06.60
    Evan Hutton - 16:06.90

    Districts 2015:
    CB West: 0:47 1-5 Split | 16:03 Avg (3 Seconds Slower from WT to Districts Average)
    (Rock Fortna -- 15:40 -- 4 seconds faster)
    (Brian Iatarola -- 15:48 -- 3 seconds faster)
    (Ben Smullen -- 16:03 -- 6 seconds slower)

    CR North: 0:16 1-5 Split | 16:26 Avg (2 Seconds Slower)
    (Ryan Campbell -- 16:18 -- 12 seconds faster)
    (Tim Haas -- 16:18 -- 1 second faster)
    (Bryan Keller -- 16:30 -- 2 seconds slower)

    Other Individuals:
    Rahi Shah - 15:59 (12 seconds slower)
    Rusty Kujdych - 15:55 (7 seconds slower)
    Matthew Scarpill - 16:52 (57 seconds slower, injury?)
    Joe Maguire -- 15:58 (2 seconds faster)
    Matthew Allen -- 16:06 (5 seconds slower)
    Sean Rahill -- 16:40 (36 seconds slower)
    Tucker Desko - 16:06 (same time)
    Evan Hutton - 16:16 (10 seconds slower)

    For further viewing lets check the 2016 Paul Short Course to Tennent
    Rusty Kujdych -- 15:25 (Paul Short) -> 15:19 (William Tennent)
    Evan Hutton -- 15:46 (Paul Short) -> 15:41 (William Tennent)
    Sean Rahill -- 15:56 (Paul Short) -> 15:41 (William Tennent)

    It is clear that William Tennent is a bit faster (a larger net downhill) than Lehigh's course. This being said last year shows us that this course fairly accurately predicts how team averages will come out on Lehigh's layout. Looking then at CR North's 15:52 average team time this weekend and a 28 spread I think we can look forward to some great things at Districts. This team will be at least under 15:55 average, but I think they will need to hit 15:50 or under to beat DT West and show that they have a shot at taking down Carlisle.

    --ForrestCRN

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    1. The whole tight spread/pack thing is overrated, it just happens to be where DTW runners finished. The still lost.

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  12. Delco's:
    i was extremely impressed with O'Hara in this meet. Patrick James has his best race of the season finishing right behind #35 Avery Lederer. #32 Gavin Ingles had a tougher race this time around, but was only 12 seconds back of Patrick and just 3 seconds behind stand-out James Abraham (who seems to have exited the Etrain Top 50). Abraham has had a very solid season and was sub 16 at Lehigh a year ago, so I think the O'Hara boys are looking quite strong. Also Billy Donovan stepped up at their 5th man and is really tightening that gap. It is going to be very hard to rank these teams after this week.

    - ForrestCRN

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  13. Sorry! Abraham is ET#29!! So Lederer will be moving up again this weekend after his 4th second place finish in recent weeks. Really impressive streak he has going.

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  14. Hoey hasn't really gotten going yet.

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    1. He did better when with Dwest.

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  15. Now it's a matter of what Dwest guys, Henderson guys, and even shanahan guys will rest/race at chesmonts

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  16. Galligan remains a mystery after not racing Delcos. Wait a second, hold the phones! He absolutely smashed the competition at the Johnny's Run 5k this morning. What a brave race he ran!

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    1. That was smart of him not to race delcos. He needs to save himself for the charity 5ks, which are obviously the more important races.

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    2. Why would he skip Delcos?

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  17. There's something fundamentally wrong with the sport when PA teams make an invite in NY more important than own their league championship.

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    1. I agree, and here is my opinion. In wrestling for example, Chesmonts is a qualifier for Districts. The only path to districts is placing at Chesmonts; hence, it means something.
      However, in XC and Track, the league championship is meaningless. It becomes another another meaningless event to potentially get injured at. The solution is simply, make league championships part of the qualifying path to state.

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  18. Avon grove 5th at chesmonts. Must have run their JV

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    1. They didn't, ran their whole varsity

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    2. Only two teams were that arrogant, and it showed.

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    3. Arrogant? Seemed like a smart move - give up and comers some valuable experience and allow the varsity to focus on districts and states.

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    4. ^ That's the predictable excuse they'll use.

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    5. Help me out here, how many state titles / state champions does Avon Grove have in XC?

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    6. Where is the guy that raved about Avon Grove? Any insight?lol

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